Posts by im stuck in

Went to the meeting today. What a ra ra to be zealous in preaching sales meeting. I was totally disgusted at the outright deception that they are spewing out.

I am convinced that they will say or do anything to get people to preach more. Some here have said that maybe they will change the message to (your time is up now) I don't think so. Everyone today was zealously commenting on how the need to preach is greater now than ever. And that the time is definately reduced. It made me think of when I was a kid in the 60s very heavy pressure to pioneer, go to beth hell and generally do all you can to further the message. I was waiting for someone to say, some can no doubt sell their homes and finish out the last days in full time service. When will these people ever wake up and see it isn't coming , this is just a corporation you are volunteering for! But I guess they will never run out of people to be duped. And next week there is an even stronger sales meeting in the second article. And to think I did this crap wholeheartedly fo 50 years!

It is an outright crime ,these people are so desperate for change that they will swallow anything. Makes me so sad that I followed this crap once. And that my dear family can't see the light. I have to attend semi regular to try and save my wife , but let me tell you it is really hard on me.

I had to get up and leave for a walk outside, boy did I get the looks from the wife. I think if I hadn't I would have had to make a comment about it being bull shit. Did anyone else go? Did you see the same things as me? stuck in

Did anyone else go today and get the same feelings as I did? stuck in

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What are your favorite supernatural movies?

by JimmyPage in

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"paranormal activity", "the ninth gate", "the orphanage", "1408", and "the others" are a few i like to get the ball rolling..

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The Watchtower film Heritage it was beyond beleif. stuck in

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so oompa got df'd this week...

by oompa in

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no call to invite me to a committee meeting...no notification of deciding i should be df'd....no telling my jw wife of the announcement...not a chance to appeal what i did not even know what was going on...my mini-serve son is devasted....he even researched it....told me to go to page 153-154 of the od book...never heard of it but it is a green hardback given to all who are to be baptized.

wow...the elders broke every rule in this book as to my case.... i have no respect for these men that can take away your jw family without even telling you they are going to.

my jw son has now begged me to meet with my committee...even though there is prob zero chance they can reverse the decision...that chance is from when they let you know...and you have to appeal by letter within 7 days (i cant make this stuff up!!

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That is bs. They probably think you had whole blood. Thus according to their thinking you disassociated yourself. If you only had fractions most of them are now allowed. I would call one of them up and tell them you received approved fractions. And ask for a different appeal committee under the circumstances. Being dfd is tough, it sets most into a whole new set of parimiters. stuck in

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Did you ever find the meetings refreshing?

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i can remember one pompous elder asking me "how can you be depressed after sittiing through such a wonderful meeting?!!".

i only ever felt relief at getting away, what about you?.

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I used to enjoy speaking and reading the WT that made the time go by faster. Now they just suck!

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What do you think the witness are saying about the weather

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i think the witness are probably happy with anticaption that this just might the closing of this syestem of things.i mean crazy weather here in the northeast and flooding in austrailia.all the signs are their.

i think they are just eating this stuff up.

tell me what you think, have any witness you encountered said anything about this crazy weather.

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Oh yes my mother thinks that this is just another sign. Disturbing! I can not get thru to her at all. stuck in

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I need help! Do you find it difficult pretending to keep your family?

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yesterday and today have been extra hard days.

as most of you know i am trying to releive my wife and family of the burdens of the watchtower, thus staying semi active in the org.

recent happenings in the world have caused the witnesses to tighten the grip on the peoples minds.

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Thanks for all of the kind thoughtful words. I know that many of you are going through similar pain and please know that I feel the same way for you.

I think I will try to find some counselling as suggested it can't hurt, and I have been before and know that it helps. I am going to ponder all of this this weekend. I doubt that I will attend KH with her on Sunday so I can be alone to think. When I think of the lives of so many people that (watchtower) they play with it is devestating. I am pretty sure that many of the GB and high ups have to know what they are doing. That it is all a concept. But as for most of the rank and file I think that they are just followers. Only us true leaders who can think for ourselves will make it out. Thanks again stuck in

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Beards vs. Bow Ties: Which is more "immodest" or attention drawing?

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if you were on a hiring panel for a new chair of the federal reserve board, would either a neatly trimmed beard or a bow tie even register on your dress and grooming "radar"?.

i'm talking ben bernanke, (current chairman of the fed).

richard abrahamson, secretary/treasurer of the wtb&ts of pennsylvania since 2000. i looked all over and couldn't find a picture of him, but he's famous for his bow ties.

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I am always turned off by bowties they look childish in my opinion. Why do you think Pee Wee Herman has one? But I also pretty much hate neckties as well. I only wear one when I have too. Beards look fine I like the short ones especially. stuck in

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I need help! Do you find it difficult pretending to keep your family?

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yesterday and today have been extra hard days.

as most of you know i am trying to releive my wife and family of the burdens of the watchtower, thus staying semi active in the org.

recent happenings in the world have caused the witnesses to tighten the grip on the peoples minds.

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Yesterday and today have been extra hard days. As most of you know I am trying to releive my wife and family of the burdens of the Watchtower, thus staying semi active in the org. Recent happenings in the world have caused the witnesses to tighten the grip on the peoples minds. I have lost alot of ground on the things I have proven to my wife that are wrong in the org. She is now constantly saying I must return to Jehovah with her and get protected by Jehovah.

I am getting sick of trying so hard and am on the brink of either returning (gag) or walking away from her and everything else. If I were a younger man the decision would be easy. But they have taken our youth and I just don't see it as being that easy. I think I am too old and tired to start over with another wife. So where does that leave people like me.

I must admit that when I beleived that it was the truth I was pretty happy, but after learning of the lies and deceit of the Watchtower I could not in good conscience serve them anymore. Teaching lies and deceiving people into nothing but a publishing company. But now though free in mind I find that I have what seems like a big hole in my life and heart.

I know that there must be others like me and some that have lost so much more. At least I don't have children to shun me. (thanks to the borg)

I am college educated and not a stupid mind numbed robot, but I am having a very difficult time of this. I was in the position of being a leader in the cong for many years and had many people coming to me for help, but it seems now that I can't help myself. So I guess I am seeking help from any in a like position. I know that there are many here considerably older than I. But I am completely bewildered about what to do with my life. Should we keep pretending and live out the rest of our lives semi in the org or make a complete break at this point. I am sick of the rhetoric I get from my wife about sticking with the org and jehovah will protect me. I know that it is not true that he is not interested in this org at all. I love her so much and it breaks my heart to see her taking their side and not being reasonable and understanding. She has been and still is a pioneer longer than I was an elder.

I have been considering seeing a therapist but I am not sure of that. So I guess I am asking for your help can anyone give me any suggestions on how to handle this?

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